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When Todd countered that "truth is truth", Mr Giuliani exclaimed: "Truth isn't truth".

"Truth is truth", Todd interjected. The comments were widely mocked on social media.

"I'm old enough to remember when we went after Bill ClintonWilliam (Bill) Jefferson ClintonTime running out for Trump's NAFTA talks Pioneer of modern redistricting dies at 75 To reduce urban violence, let's consider the real causes - not guns, police or "low" taxes MORE for "depends on what the definition of 'is" is, ' that's up there - I think this might beat that", Setmeyer said. Todd burst out laughing, pointing out that the sentiment is destined to become a meme of the kind that adorns placards at anti-Trump rallies.

The younger Trump replied: "If it's what you say I love it" - and several days later, the meeting took place. Yet when it comes to Trump and Russiagate, the smirking line among many critics right now vis-a-vis Trump's reluctance to sit down with Mueller is "You have nothing to fear from talking to prosecutors unless you have something to hide".

Conservative commentator Tara Setmayer on Monday said that the Trump administration is "gaslighting" the American public and the administration may not be able to continue the tactic much longer.

Instead, Giuliani contradicted months of Trump-team statements that the president was not aware of a $130,000 payment during the 2016 campaign to adult film actress Stormy Daniels, which she says was "hush money" to buy her silence about an alleged affair with Trump. They won't believe the truth even if they hear it. But in explaining why Trump should worry about telling the truth, Giuliani questioned the existence of truth itself.

The president denies any collusion, and has repeatedly called the Mueller probe "a witch hunt".

The ex-New York mayor cited as an example former FBI Director James Comey, who has said that Trump pushed him at a private meeting to ease up in the federal investigation of former White House national security adviser Michael Flynn. "Truth isn't truth", Giuliani said.